Difference Between Bakalao and Makina?

[jiinze]

Sorry for this being in English! I am still learning spanish and it is bad >.<

Ok, que es bakalao? What is the difference of makina and bakalao?

Also, is Wintermute Hands of Fate bakalao or makina?

So confusing! XD

Sorry for english again... Here is a google translate version of what I said:

Lo siento por este ser en Inglés! Todavía estoy aprendiendo español y es> mal. <

Ok, bakalao es que? ¿Cuál es la diferencia de makina y bakalao?

Además, es Wintermute Hands of Fate bakalao o makina?

Tan confuso! XD

Disculpa Inglés otra vez.

[( ( ( Charlie ) ) )]

Bakalao is the type of makina of the beginning, one "evolution" of the techno pop, ebm, industrial and guitars, created in Valencia. You search sessions of Actv, Barraca, Over Drive, Spook, El Torero, Central Rock, Villa Adelina, Psicodromo, Ocho...

This music in Catalunya evolution in other direction, with more speed and mixes more frenetic, a lot of melodies and the influences of happy hardcore, hardcore, hard trance...sessions in Scorpia, Xque, La Festa, Nau b-3, Barçalles, Chasis, Pont Aeri, Anonim, Central Cubelles, Wonder, Ocho, Activa, Psicosis, Desk, Future...

Examples of types of "makina"

Makina from Valencia, Alicante & Murcia

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4iE7C4QcNg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4iE7C4QcNg</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXKvuLGppVQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXKvuLGppVQ</a>

"Bakalao"
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgCcNyuekU4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgCcNyuekU4</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHnETHAGV1o" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHnETHAGV1o</a>

Trance & progressive up pitched

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnsHl1wce7U" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnsHl1wce7U</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVNVRlP7vz8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVNVRlP7vz8</a>

Hard Trance (Pont Aeri, Scorpia, Xque...)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYOK8CGGh7c" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYOK8CGGh7c</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUKlfYwOR-g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUKlfYwOR-g</a>

Makina from Catalunya
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJRLmxsAOEE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJRLmxsAOEE</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zww18mq8Whg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zww18mq8Whg</a>

ITT from Voltio, Mikito, David Traya..

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ivV6oZDNU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ivV6oZDNU</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLVMUWtDlbk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLVMUWtDlbk</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OJcSpORGdc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OJcSpORGdc</a>

And more styles and influences are called makina or bakalao in Spain indifferent for a lot of people

Seguro que el inglés se va a partir pero al menos lo he intentado! jeje

[manded]

Buena clasificacion a bote pronto, pero como cada uno tiene sus clasificaciones de generos veo discrepancias de la lista en breve. 

[( ( ( Charlie ) ) )]

Buena clasificacion a bote pronto, pero como cada uno tiene sus clasificaciones de generos veo discrepancias de la lista en breve. 

Si en verdad podria haber dicho 20 estilos mas pero para alguien que no distingue entre makina y bakalao más o menos les vendrá bien

[Charly el Sectario]

makina inglesa o uk hardcore


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxyarvWVk9A" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxyarvWVk9A</a>


(L)

[Jona_19]

Maquina

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH87XZ4rLi4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH87XZ4rLi4</a>

Makina

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xldP-UEepL4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xldP-UEepL4</a>

[Dj Spaniel]

MAKINA

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47m6myql_yU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47m6myql_yU</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUy9uXBya2g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUy9uXBya2g</a>

BAKALAO

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YTp98ZDHlE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YTp98ZDHlE</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41z1ojDgZt4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41z1ojDgZt4</a>

[tHe HaRdCoRiAn]

Sobretodo, que el bakalao es una mezcla de diferentes estilos combinados en sesiones, y la makina es un estilo con entidad propio, velocidad, sonidos,...

[PLAY!]

More or less it's what "charlie" saids, Bakalao it was the beginning of Makina, it was from Valencia in the end of 80's beginning 90's, it was more similar than techno ( so, bakalao it was an evolution, as well, from other styles). After that, it was an evolution and the sounds became more simple and melodical. The way to mix it changed as well; before, with the Bakalao the music was slower and it was mixed, usually, just with 2 decks, now with the Makina we use to mix in a faster velocities, and very frenetik rithm and we use the use three decks or more, and some people doesn't like this. This is a very, very simple and nuff sumary between makina and bakalao, and that's all that I can explain with my really simple English, I'm sorry.

Siento mi pobre inglés, pero la intención ha sido la mejor.

[pajarito]

bakalao is closer to acid house and can be considered early rave music. Makina is the spanish version of the happy hardcore and obviously an evolution of the bakalao.
Then you have makina actual, that has nothing to do with bakalao and is an evolution of makina taking influences from the dutch hardcore.